July 28, 2005

Guns? Jesus? Guns?! Jesus?!

So maybe you've seen the hubbub at The Poor Man and elsewhere about the funding of Boy Scouts by the US government. The short version, which you can read more about in the links above, is that a U.S. District Court ruled that the U.S. government could not fund the Scout Jamboree, because the Boy Scouts "meet the standard of a religious organization" which violates the establishment clause. Since they have nothing else important to do, Congress stepped in. The Senate passed an amendment to a spending bill to make sure the government support of the Jamboree would continue as the "Boy Scouts of America's National Scout Jamboree is a unique training event for the Armed Forces." I've put the whole amendment in the extended entry for your amusement. Because really, if we can't laugh, we'll cry! Security of ports and highways? Who knows!? Even if the rest of us are melted into glass the Boy Scouts will have their miltary training eve... oops, "Jamboree."

SA 1342. Mr. FRIST (for himself, Mr. ALEXANDER, Mr. ALLARD, Mr. ALLEN, Mr. BENNETT, Mr. BINGAMAN, Mr. BOND, Mr. BROWNBACK, Mr. BUNNING, Mr. BURNS, Mr. BURR, Mr. CHAMBLISS, Mr. COBURN, Mr. COCHRAN, Mr. COLEMAN, Ms. COLLINS, Mr. CORNYN, Mr. CRAIG, Mr. CRAPO, Mr. DEMINT, Mrs. DOLE, Mr. DOMENICI, Mr. ENSIGN, Mr. ENZI, Mr. GRAHAM, Mr. GRASSLEY, Mr. HAGEL, Mr. HATCH, Mrs. HUTCHISON, Mr. INHOFE, Mr. ISAKSON, Mr. KYL, Mrs. LINCOLN, Mr. LOTT, Mr. LUGAR, Mr. MARTINEZ, Mr. MCCONNELL, Ms. MURKOWSKI, Mr. NELSON of Florida, Mr. NELSON of Nebraska, Mr. PRYOR, Mr. ROBERTS, Mr. SANTORUM, Mr. SESSIONS, Mr. SHELBY, Mr. SMITH, Mr. STEVENS, Mr. SUNUNU, Mr. TALENT, Mr. THOMAS, Mr. THUNE, Mr. VITTER, Ms. LANDRIEU, and Mr. WARNER) proposed an amendment to the bill S. 1042, to authorize appropriations for fiscal year 2006 for military activities of the Department of Defense, for military construction, and for defense activities of the Department of Energy, to prescribe personnel strengths for such fiscal year for the Armed Forces, and for other purposes; as follows:
At the end of subtitle G of title X, insert the following:
SEC. 1073. SUPPORT FOR YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS.
(a) Short Title.--This Act may be cited as the ``Support Our Scouts Act of 2005''.
(b) Support for Youth Organizations.--
(1) DEFINITIONS.--In this subsection--
(A) the term ``Federal agency'' means each department, agency, instrumentality, or other entity of the United States Government; and
(B) the term ``youth organization''--
(i) means any organization that is designated by the President as an organization that is primarily intended to--
(I) serve individuals under the age of 21 years;
(II) provide training in citizenship, leadership, physical fitness, service to community, and teamwork; and
(III) promote the development of character and ethical and moral values; and
(ii) shall include--
(I) the Boy Scouts of America;
(II) the Girl Scouts of the United States of America;
(III) the Boys Clubs of America;
(IV) the Girls Clubs of America;
(V) the Young Men's Christian Association;
(VI) the Young Women's Christian Association;
(VII) the Civil Air Patrol;
(VIII) the United States Olympic Committee;
(IX) the Special Olympics;
(X) Campfire USA;
(XI) the Young Marines;
(XII) the Naval Sea Cadets Corps;
(XIII) 4-H Clubs;
(XIV) the Police Athletic League;
(XV) Big Brothers--Big Sisters of America; and
(XVI) National Guard Youth Challenge.
(2) IN GENERAL.--
(A) SUPPORT FOR YOUTH ORGANIZATIONS.--No Federal law (including any rule, regulation, directive, instruction, or order) shall be construed to limit any Federal agency from providing any form of support for a youth organization (including the Boy Scouts of America or any group officially affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America) that would result in that Federal agency providing less support to that youth organization (or any similar organization chartered under the chapter of title 36, United States Code, relating to that youth organization) than was provided during the preceding fiscal year.
(B) TYPES OF SUPPORT.--Support described under this paragraph shall include--
(i) holding meetings, camping events, or other activities on Federal property;
(ii) hosting any official event of such organization;
(iii) loaning equipment; and
(iv) providing personnel services and logistical support.
(c) Support for Scout Jamborees.--
(1) FINDINGS.--Congress makes the following findings:
(A) Section 8 of article I of the Constitution of the United States commits exclusively to Congress the powers to raise and support armies, provide and maintain a Navy, and make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces.
(B) Under those powers conferred by section 8 of article I of the Constitution of the United States to provide, support, and maintain the Armed Forces, it lies within the discretion of Congress to provide opportunities to train the Armed Forces.
(C) The primary purpose of the Armed Forces is to defend our national security and prepare for combat should the need arise.
(D) One of the most critical elements in defending the Nation and preparing for combat is training in conditions that simulate the preparation, logistics, and leadership required for defense and combat.
(E) Support for youth organization events simulates the preparation, logistics, and leadership required for defending our national security and preparing for combat.
(F) For example, Boy Scouts of America's National Scout Jamboree is a unique training event for the Armed Forces, as it requires the construction, maintenance, and disassembly of a ``tent city'' capable of supporting tens of thousands of people for a week or longer. Camporees at the United States Military Academy for Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts provide similar training opportunities on a smaller scale.
(2) SUPPORT.--Section 2554 of title 10, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:
``(i)(1) The Secretary of Defense shall provide at least the same level of support under this section for a national or world Boy Scout Jamboree as was provided under this section for the preceding national or world Boy Scout Jamboree.
``(2) The Secretary of Defense may waive paragraph (1), if the Secretary--
``(A) determines that providing the support subject to paragraph (1) would be detrimental to the national security of the United States; and
``(B) reports such a determination to the Congress in a timely manner, and before such support is not provided.''.
[Page: S8687] GPO's PDF
(d) Equal Access for Youth Organizations.--Section 109 of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974 (42 U.S.C. 5309) is amended--
(1) in the first sentence of subsection (b) by inserting ``or (e)'' after ``subsection (a)''; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
``(e) Equal Access.--
``(1) DEFINITION.--In this subsection, the term `youth organization' means any organization described under part B of subtitle II of title 36, United States Code, that is intended to serve individuals under the age of 21 years.
``(2) IN GENERAL.--No State or unit of general local government that has a designated open forum, limited public forum, or nonpublic forum and that is a recipient of assistance under this chapter shall deny equal access or a fair opportunity to meet to, or discriminate against, any youth organization, including the Boy Scouts of America or any group officially affiliated with the Boy Scouts of America, that wishes to conduct a meeting or otherwise participate in that designated open forum, limited public forum, or nonpublic forum.''.

And yes, I know other organizations are mentioned in here, but the main focus is the Boy Scouts.

Posted by binky at July 28, 2005 10:09 PM | TrackBack | Posted to Politics


Comments

Talk about an eye-rolling argument. I mean you can learn some useful things in the Scouts or 4-H, but c'mon ...

I find it interesting that the only explicitly religious groups they could find to include are Christian. What, there's no national group for hard-working Jewish girls who want to learn crafts or how to start fires in the forest?

Posted by: Armand at July 29, 2005 09:31 AM | PERMALINK

if a bunch of folks who can't even handle a hot day or the raising of a tent are entrusted with proto-military funding, i fear our military readiness may be very much in question.

i didn't realize the government funds this stuff: that's really odious, especially in light of their expressly discriminatory position on homosexuality. if the rationale is military, wouldn't it at least be symmetrical to impose a parallel to don't ask don't tell?

Posted by: joshua at July 29, 2005 10:23 AM | PERMALINK

So, the President put his mouth where our money is and went to the Jamboree to speak.

Surprise one, he mentioned FDR without retching. Surprise two, and a bonus that it's in the same paragraph, I didn't think Bush's speechwriters, I mean, our President, was that insensitive.

Here at the 16th National Scout Jamboree, you're carrying on a tradition that dates back almost seven decades. President Franklin Roosevelt came to the first jamboree in 1937. I don't think he rode in the same kind of helicopter I did, though. (Laughter.) You know, I was looking forward to coming last week, but the thunderstorms got in the way. So I appreciate the rain check. (Laughter and applause.)

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Posted by: binky at August 2, 2005 06:22 PM | PERMALINK
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